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![[ Letters ]](/gfx/letters1.gif) | Wednesday, June 30, 2004 |
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Trading In Your Soul
Chris Gesualdi - 06-30-04
Disclaimer: The opinions expressed within this column are those of its moderator and contributors.
Here, incendiary remarks freely intertwine with liberal obscenity to weave tapestries of offensive material the Gameforms
Project can not be held responsible for. La Pucelle Rules Consider yourself duly
warned.
I started playing La Pucelle Tactics yesterday. I’m enjoying it a great deal more than I liked Disgaea. You actually progress from level to level rather than constantly replaying the same stages over and over trying to level up characters. I like the dark portal system a lot more than Disgaea’s Geo Panels, and the environments are just more interesting and colorful. If you like strategy RPGs you really should pick it up. It’s only $20 at Target for some unknown reason.
Here’s a story on the accused Driv3r review fixing. It seems to only have involved the British gaming press, but it’s still noteworthy if it’s true.
On a related note Driv3r went to #1 on the UK charts. Bleh.
Anyway, today we’re taking about game trade-ins. Are they total rip-offs? Are there other alternatives?
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What's eBay?
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Yes, there's something better than a trade ins program.
It's called "eBay." Maybe you've heard of it.
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More people should really turn around and start selling their stuff on eBay. I think a lot of people are just scared of the technology, as well as the potential for getting scammed. It’s honestly a lot easier and less time-consuming to go to a store and have them give you some money for your old games, but it’s doubtful you’ll get a good deal.
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I Miss Bangai-O...
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Trade-ins at the major retail chains almost always suck. They usually present two kinds of offers: trade in X number of games to get (insert "hot" new title here), or they buy your games for very little money. Also in the case of the former situation they almost always exclude a
large number of games from, uh, "participation", so you never get to dump your library of EA and Eidos Interactive titles anyway. I used to trade at EB all the time just because I had little money and wanted to get the newer games, but after doing this for a few years I started
to feel genuinely preyed upon, especially after looking through their "previously played" shelf which has prices only about $1-$3 shy of the retail prices. Anger. Anyway, I finally found an alternative - http://gametz.com. It lets you list your game collection online, view the collections of others, and propose exchanges with other gamers. Basically for me it feels like an expanded version of what we all did back in gradeschool - trade games with other gamers, not to make a profit, but because we had become sick of our old games, and our neighbor had become sick of his (different) old games. The site does charge a membership fee, but fortunately offers free membership for I think 30 days, more than enough time to get a few trades in. Anyway, I urge anyone fed up with the retail "trade" system to give gametz a chance - obviously the more people in the network, the more potential trades.
-Kaocrat
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I’m glad the stores with trade-in programs are trying new ways to make the prospect of selling off your games a little more pleasing, but it’s still not a perfect system. It still sucks to see a used game for $45 though, especially when you know you could only get around $25-$30 in credit if you traded that same title in.
I used to trade on GameTZ… until some kid in Oregon stole my copy of Dragonball GT Final Bout. If you’re good at avoiding scammers then it really is the way to go, but if you’re an idiot like me maybe you should stay away. Then again, I was a member back when membership was free. I’m sure the membership fee has steered away a lot of potential scammers.
Man, some other kid stole my copy of Bangai-O and moved to Mexico… I really want to play that game again too…
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Gloria
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I hate trade-ins, dude. I really do.
I hate how fuggin' UNFAIR GameStop and EB are regarding trade-ins. You'll see used-ass games that other places will sell for $20, and those two stores'll have 'em for twice that much. Greedy bastards. It's also pretty lame how they'll give about half the game's brand-new price in credit, then sell the used game for only $5 cheaper than new. Ugh. Greedy, greedy bastards.
On a related note, I've been hearing my friends tell me that the suggested retail price of $29.99 for Mega Man Anniversary Collection for PS2 has been beefed up to $44.99 by the two aforementioned stores... is this not irrefutable proof of their evil?!?! >:(
The fact that my girlfriend worked for one of those two companies for about three years--and that I've worked as a X-mas temp for the same company--means that I *KNOW* things sensible gamers were never meant to know. Horrible evil things which tore at my sense of duty and compassion--however warped--in my soul, which put me at odds between doing a good service to my gaming brethren out there, and shafting them cruelly just to keep my steady paycheck... SUCK.
(It also means I had three years of game purchasing with my woman's hefty employee discount, and that, dear friends, is what is known as "teh r0xx0rz".)
But the worst thing about trade-ins has less to do with the Satanic companies that employ them, and more to do with me: even knowing the unthinkable truths behind these stores' policies, I'll still trade-in my games, because I am one sorry broke-ass individual, and whatever helps me complete a beefy $50 price-tag ain't exactly anathema in my book. While I'll usually trade-in games I don't care for, sometimes I'll be a fool and trade-in a game I really should've kept. If I'm lucky, I'll be able to buy it back, once I come to my senses, which is why I'll *NEVER* be getting rid of the likes of Suikoden II or Valkyrie Profile or Shadow Hearts or Soul Reaver, etc., etc.
In that respect, I'm like the steward of Gondor, sending my unloved son off to die at the hands of the orcs, only to realize the bitter truth--my beloved son!!--once it's too late (and my mouth is full of blood, and the singing hobbit is crying). Major brownie points to anyone who gets the reference. ^__^
Peace.
-The Absu-
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I don’t even want to know what goes on behind the scenes at those shady game stores. I’m still bewildered at the expose Penny Arcade did on their asinine training manual. It’s really amazing how many people trade-in their games though. EB Games has warehouses filled with used games, you think more people would recognize it’s a total rip-off and turn to eBay or something but no. They are like lambs to the slaughter.
I regret a lot of the games I’ve sold. I’ve realized it’s just best to hold onto them all. Even if I’ve beaten a game, a year or two later I’ll find myself thinking “I should really go back and play that again.” It’s even worse if you sell a game that ends up being rare, so you have to search high and low for a cheap copy of Suikoden II because your dumb ass sold it to EB for like $20.
And I have no idea what the hell you’re referencing. I guess I’m just not a big enough geek.
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I Made This Kid Play Metal Gear Solid
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I bought the game Kingdom Hearts for $20 because everyone told me it was cool. I played it for 4 hours and got really sick of it. Enough 15 minute long obligatory cut scenes! enough crappy combat! Don't you hate it when your character has abunch of normal ass combat moves and all the enemies have awesome moves ripped off from The Matrix? That's what got to me about The Bouncer. Anywho, down to the bottom of my gaming shelf KH went for several months The other day, I tried pawning it off at EB. They gave me $7 of store credit for it. I bought a (much much more satisfying) Lord of the Rings game with it. Those EB bastards. Not that I cared TOO much. I was just happy to get rid of my KH game. I'm not listening to my RPG whore of a friend ever again. He loves the game and returned Splintercell instead of giving it to me. Damn. I'll just wait till I see Splintercell for $15 at a bargain bin. In conclusion, EB is composed primarilly of thieves an whores.
-THC (I want my $13 back EB)
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In all fairness Joey, you traded in a game that is now a Greatest Hit, you really shouldn’t have expected to get much back. I am glad you hated Kingdom Hearts though. You’re quickly learning the ways of being a bitter angry hardcore gamer like me my young padawan. I’m proud of you.
I told Joey I wouldn't talk to him anymore until he played the original Metal Gear Solid. I think I've made him a better gamer because of it.
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In conclusion, trade-ins suck. It’s best to find a friend or independent game store you can bring your games too and make a fair trade or get a fair sum of cash. Just because Gamestop wants to give you $15 for that used copy of Suikoden II doesn’t mean that’s what it’s worth. Look on eBay, check digitpress.com and make sure you get a good deal. Don’t let the game stores control you!
Tomorrow’s topic is worst game plot twists. Games that seemed to have enjoyable plots, but suddenly took a turn for the stupid. Maybe your character randomly gets thrust back in time with no warning, or the gangsters you’ve been fighting the whole time were really an ancient race of lizard people. E-mail me at letters@gameforms.com and let me know your favorites… or least favorites. Whatever.
This was Chris Gesualdi, who does nothing but play games and watch Adult Swim these days. Can’t say it’s a bad way to live.
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